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Report of the unfortunate LV FM6

am a commuter for several years now and, like all of you, I have happened to the sorts of things with the trains.
But today we went over everything and everyone not so much behind (even the standard now), but in the cases.
In FM6 linking Rome - Cassino (I think including the way up to Caserta) every day there are delays, delays that we all know by now, and there is, unfortunately, wonder where the train usually passes last straggler on time! What we have come, alas.
are also known, again on FM6, scandals such as those in which there were unknown to have stolen copper from electric wires or sabotage with wet newspapers on the rails. But again, alas, you get used to this!
Well today, on December 12, 2006, do you know why all the trains of critical bands (ie from 18 to 20) were late (even one was deleted)?
No? But I tell you then! Because the computer's central Termini station took quite a virus, this means: no trade, no tracks and, of course, no trains.
So the only trains were crowded with late scary and you could not even have a corner stand. With the result that people around from 6:45 in the morning, like myself, she found herself back home tired with more than two hours late.

I quote my favorite movie as a child, that is, Dumbo, but changing the text: I've seen a lot to say, never Trenitalia on time.

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LOSKE writes:

"I would like to respond to the president Innocenzo Cipolletta on from what he said about coming venturi increases. I quote: "We will work tariff changes because the rates are firm since 2000, ie six years and are the half of those in other European countries."
His word is simply worthless. Maybe because in other European countries salaries are not out of hunger, perhaps because the trains are infested with ticks, perhaps because the trains run on time and work. As a good commuter
invite Mr. to take the train before you speak. "

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ICPlus 523 of 29 September 2006

testimony of LOSKE

On the train ICPlus 523 of September 29, 2006, anything goes.
The Torino Porta Nuova train leaves at 11.05, arrives at Roma Termini at 18:14 and then goes on to Naples. In theory.

the station Moneglia, we make a stop is not provided to us is communicated through loudspeakers that the train is stopped "due to investment mortal."
great confusion, some people get off the train to go to see who stays on. I'm staying on. More ads warn that "it is taking steps to coordinate with the central finding solutions to continue the journey."
After two hours, the conductor of train passes in the second coach to warn that the target we transferred to other trains, the next step for the station. We are reminded to stay on the train, so you can listen to the next ad, so I stick to the instructions.
Time goes by and get a train, but that no announcement has been made.
He takes a chorus of "This goes to Livorno to Pisa?", And people down to ask for information to staff on the ground. Not the right train.
A few minutes passed, and the situation repeats itself. Another train, no announcement. Other people are coming down and asking. This time the train came charging passengers for La Spezia. Following is
train loads passengers bound for Livorno. Next, they should get another load all the rest. No ads are also this time. We go down to virtually every request for information.
are hanging down, an issue of up to 30-40 seconds.
a personal service, the question "This is going to Rome?" gets angry and says, "It 'has just been given the ad! You had to stay on the train rather than go all."
The fact that he makes the part dell'infuriato makes it 10 times bigger than my anger, but I refrain.
Well, go up, and continue, after about 2 hours. We stipatissimi, but this is understandable. They spend another 10 minutes, and once got on the train where we will inform us that we just left the train resumed running, and is now behind us. Anyone who wants can get off at La Spezia and transhipped again.

Here I am made to fool. Years of traveling by train, and a deep understanding of the seriousness of the staff should refrain from changing the new train, but instead, I do not know why, I decided to get off and wait for the train announced.
moment we left, I can tell on which track should go, and I have no way of knowing that after you get a lot of people were going to discontinue it! Fortunately not, but the train does not arrive. Was due to arrive in 10 minutes, they pass 30.
Finally we go back, but before leaving we are still another 30 minutes. We are already 3 hours and a half late, when the train finally resumed its course towards Rome and then Naples Terms.
Just enough time to let off some steam huge (I'd be eaten alive who gave the fake ad) that the train arrives at Tarquinia, where it was announced that "take a break of five minutes for personal change."
It 's another joke: we're still 45 minutes to get mad at me, while aware of how useless it is, but I can no longer contain his anger.
The total delay when I arrive at the station of Rome is about 4 hours and 45 minutes.

My advice: when you take a train in Italy, do not go with any expectations. With years of experience I have learned that already reach your destination is considered a fortune.

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Train IC 606, September 25, 2006

testimony EG

This morning, in a crowded compartment of the usual 606 running (?) from Venice S. Lucy at Milano Centrale, was intent on reading the newspaper also listening absently usual talk in the hallway. Normal operations of commuter
not surprised almost more than anything for a long time we replace the railroad in their indication of the places, occasional advice to travelers, translation for tourists. Trenitalia
yet know sensational news in store! I have seen a lot in 11 years of honorable service, but this is unprecedented.
I said that I was reading the newspaper, but now the eye can grasp the details of the landscape rushing (?). A strange feeling catches me, I do not know what it is. I understand a couple of seconds later, when the train begins to slow down somewhat unusual.
few obstacles on the tracks? The airline dropped? No!
On the left is the resort of San Bonifacio. And walk away.
The driver and his assistant had forgotten the brave stop, perhaps engaged in more important activities. The train disappears, we look stunned, in the corridor sacramenta conductor, the train slows down and stops beyond the station.
frantic calls of the conductor, then we move backwards to return to the dreary station where the usual small number of passengers waiting. Some fall. We share, in asking that hands are.

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DC

First, I apologize for the delay in this public action sent to the editors of Frenitalia. After all, traveling too often (too) by train, I could not be late.
Second, here is another entry from the rails (also in memory of the magazine and dignity of the old station):

Dear drafting Frenitalia,
disservice and would like to signal a further mockery of our beloved Railways .
luckily for me I would start by saying that I do not live in Italy and if occasionally I hardly ever have to deal with transport Italian. Like thousands of travelers each year, but I find myself using the Leonardo Express shuttle bus that connects directly to the Termini station in Rome Fiumicino Leonardo Da Vinci. For the departure and the arrival of the shuttle Trenitalia has seen fit to devote two-track station Termini. These tracks have a small defect of being in the most remote and poorly connected to the station ... In short the top for those arriving or departing with luggage etc (the norm for those who take a plane?).
The distance from the main station to the platforms in question is truly remarkable, so much so that even if ever measured in a scientific way, I can say without a shadow of doubt that no less than 7 minutes on foot are required to cover the route input / binaries. Terms
then has a host of ticket vending machines that serve as ... but even here in most cases or do not work or do not have enough money for the rest (not to mention the sport preferred by "smart" aggressive begging!).
But so far I could still be waived, thinking that in a country where little work was certainly not a primary objective of the "comfort" for passengers but the thing that I was literally shocked when I noticed a difference in prices for the same of the same shuttle train ticket!
Let me explain, if the ticket the shuttle is made through Ticket (automatic or not) the cost of this rises to about 8 / 9 € (remember a little 'confused ... sorry) but if that lack of time or another is made at a mini Ticket (stand) near the train by a miracle the price rises to € 11! The explanation? "Is a ticket for sale near the train" and therefore more expensive.
Clearly Trenitalia has seen fit to put the ticket (including all machines) in the entrance hall of the station and even a last track, distant memory, no less than 500 meters!
now calculated that most people buy a ticket at this stand point of having to do most of the time a row ... the calculation is easily done. Tranitalia RUBA 3 € for every traveler.
Finally, as icing on the cake, I wanted to point out that to reach the airport, there are only two trains, said the Leonardo Express train and a second "internal". Well I do not believe it but with the first train journey time is 30 minutes at a cost of 8 (Read 11) € for the second dealing with the same distance 24 minutes and 5 euro!
trains will certainly be different, with different comfort etc etc ... Well in theory, in practice NO. Although structurally diverse possess both trains (in my opinion / ed) the same standard of comfort! Indeed while the former more often than not is full and you are forced to travel by foot, in the second it is easy to find a place as this is the famous double-decker trains used to transport the "metropolitan".
Now both yes and no price to travel 30 km seem really excessive, given that here in Belgium for the same service (4 times better) and the same mileage (about) the SNCB (the Belgian Trenitalia) just asking € 2.80! Among other things, the two Italian trains are not usable by people with disabilities or similar ... while the one used in Belgium!
... then just one final treat for the conclusion. On the back of the ticket of the second train, there are the usual WARNING in Italian ... in English and you say, well, there is no option as the only German! The first ticket but even that ... Great for a service intended for an international airport!
Well, congratulations again Trenitalia!
Sincerely
DC
ps: I attach no 2 photos of the tickets in question

ps2: checking on the Trenitalia website I noticed that tickets for the Leonardo Express has been increased to 11 euro as their standard rate. Imagine a family of 4 .... 44 € just to catch a train that will run it and not a few tens of km .

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Just for my curiosity (and maybe even hurt me) I wanted to keep records of the delays incurred as a daily commuter to go to work in Milan in January in June this year 's. The times were not taken "per second", but rounded down to or over 5 minutes without cheating! Normally used to go to the workplace (departure and arrival Casalpusterlengo) the train to Milan 20416 Piacenza Greek Pirelli leg (leaving at 7:02 and arrival at 7:52) and the train from Milan 20431 Greek Pirelli Piacenza return (departure at 18:07 and arrival at 18:48): pretty much the same convoy.

propose the following summary table of my misfortunes user of rail transportation in the first six months of this year 's, which indicates that, on 104 days of commuting (thankfully I missed several days of travel), I have accumulated delays 2015 minutes, equivalent to 33.5 hours, slightly less than one working week!

Add to this dirty carriages, some behind closed sometimes with so many people standing, cold winter and hot in summer (although in this respect, the annual average is around 22 degrees, having a ' range from 4 degrees to the average winter over 40 summer) you can get an idea about the pleasures of the life of commuting. I will not forget the ads for train delays and cancellations of data with improper delay (especially in Milan on Greek Pirelli) less restrictive alternatives when it is already gone.

Thank Frenitalia, and thanks to those who, having control and being able to fix it, pretending that all goes to plan!

My name? No, I'm Ugo Fantozzi, accountant, though, as all the other hapless commuters, could I ask a kind of twinning!

GC

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Sixty and thirty cents

I arrived at the door station. I do the row is the first of the month and many commuters (both students and workers) as I expect to be able to renew your subscription for the next thirty days. It is with wallets in hand, without thinking about anything special, maybe with his gaze fixed on the escape of some tiles on the shoes or some other space shuttle.
my turn and I say automatically directed to the microphone with his lips out of the glass:
- A monthly subscription of eighty miles, please.
The ticket on the other side takes the small rectangular cardboard and metal sticks it into the slot. I, with his hand ready to pull the figure that I know of habit, I ask:
- How much?
- Sixty and thirty cents.
- Excuse me, but they were fifty-fifty the last month?
- Yes, but prices have now increased.
- Since when?
- Now.
- Ah, I understand ... She said that was for my subscription?
- Sixty and thirty cents.
- but have only increased subscriptions or tickets?
- even the tickets.
- Mm. Step
sixty euro and thirty cents in the slot in the metal to glass suddenly feeling an overwhelming helplessness against such situations. The ticket is quiet and introverted and collects the money. Giro
heels (although I always wear flat shoes) and I go out from the atrium smadonnando subheading to obliterate the stupid card from over-exorbitant price. I feel very "in-sheep-flock."
then I climb up a thirty year old locomotive arrived at the station with a delay of one quarter of an hour, which reeks of diesel fuel and heat as a barbeque in the garden the day of August. And I wonder: what will never be served to pay one euro and eighty cents more if the service has remained the same as before?

That was September 1, Friday morning.

Yesterday evening, I returned from work by train No. 2245 to Bologna. Arriving in Monselice at 18:55 I had to wait about twenty minutes to take the regional train No. 20758 of Mantova for 19:18. Usually the train is stopped on the track already and I do not have to do is go up and wait for the departure. Yesterday, no. The train and the train was not there before, the No. 5580 as of 18:53, was still at the track four when he had to be from well before my arrival. It expects all on the dock, obviously there is no voice to the speakers to give comfort or at least information on the delay. Rumors claimed that 20758 was the train stopped on the tracks, broken, before the station and then the line (single track) was blocked indefinitely. The head of the train tells us that in 5580 the station square there is a bus replacement ready to go. We head towards the middle of all that turns out to be a small tourist bus probably recovered cheaply from any state of the former Soviet bloc. Let's all inside the vehicle, hoping and praying not to take an hour to travel the ten kilometers of the highway at that hour will be full of traffic. As soon as all the back of all seats were laid on the light green color, salt jalopy on a railway man who warns us that the train to the track four, one from which we had just descended, he would be ready to go. All we put ourselves in the foot, again, wiper that detach from the interior of the wagon, another transhumance. The train of eighteen and fifty-part to the nineteen-thirty.
In my head, while the old railcar thirty years trudging on track, I still think about what is served to raise the price of subscriptions and tickets.

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This, then !

"WARNING!
The regional train, cinquemilanovecentonove, hours for five twenty-five p.m., Cervignano, will start with a track, thirty minutes late, because, investment people.
We apologize for any inconvenience occurred. "

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signal came from an anonymous commuter:

" One day, I think it was a Thursday, I noticed an IC Plus Fogazzaro abandoned the platform 6 of the Railway Station New. Unfortunately I can not remember the exact day (commuter, alas).

Refund? Ah, ah. The service was canceled has not even arrived late!

It makes me think of what happened yesterday: IC 606 announced 20 minutes late, the region preceding it has only 10 (it will pass in Vicenza). Apart from the regional board and change the delay of the 606 in 50 minutes! Fake, because the information with the mighty Mercury system is that the train departed from Venice SL, but from Porto Marghera is not yet past, that is still on the Freedom Bridge. "Anonymous

ask: what is the Mercury powerful system?
I ask everybody: let us not only delays. Do you like the bathrooms of trains? What do you think of practical jet of hot air that is in the Eurostar? That hole that shoots air into the lower right corner, such that if one were to wash my face, unfortunately, for asciugarsela to create with his hands a complex system of which redirect the air in the compartment so that at least a slight draft can get to lick her face, as there is no direct way to approach the face of the union and that there are no towels available. Ah, progress! Ah, the bathrooms elettronificati!

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Goodnight travelers

I want to know, approximately, but in the rest of Italy when you arrive
the last train? By us (Biella), the station closes shop at 10
evening. Since the nearest station station (Novara) is an hour away,
this means that wherever I go (usually in Milan, which is not a destination
so strange in our neighborhood), at 9 pm I have to be in the station to return
at home or look after 6 am. And
tip, the last train of the evening is * always * late, so goodbye
coincidence. Or suppressed, even better.

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Reporting

Report this message arrived yesterday via e-mail:

"I do not know maybe I'm still too angry, but what happened to me makes me doubt that I will use media public in Italy.
Or, as I heard, I organized a trip too complicated? Certainly my respect for Trenitalia Malpensa Airport and its links with the center of Milan fell to almost zero. In the future will no longer use these links and I will advise all those who sconsiglierò.

The facts: I
a flight from Malpensa to 12 to Thursday, 16.02.2006. Malpensa airport is not just to Udine, but given the supply and affordability in mind that the flight was not available in the nearest airports, organize the train journey. From Udine to 5.30 part to a splendid Intercity Milano Centrale arrival at 9.50. The official site of Malpensa come to know of an efficient bus connection between Malpensa and Milano Centrale every 20 minutes lasting 50 minutes. I have two accounts. Arriving in Milan at 9.50 and prepurchased ticket via the Internet can easily take the 10 bus and be at the airport for 10:50 to 11:00. A delay of the train (even with a huge delay of 20 minutes) I would still take the bus the 10 and 20 and to be at the airport at 11:10 to 11:20 with a little bit short of breath but not impossible to view the completion of the check-in 30 minutes. I remember in London, for an error from the travel agency, to be managed to catch a connecting flight between Stansted and Luton with a time of 2 hours using only public transportation. In comparison, this seems a walk in Milan ... In short I do not think something like "mission impossible". So I decided
flight from Malpensa train from Udine. About 27 € 2nd class ticket reservation is required (by the way the flight one way including taxes € 25). Last Thursday
regular part of Udine. In the first two hours of travel can also end up on the laptop presentation that I'm doing this trip. Then I can also travel to doze off and serene. The rest of the train is extended a little too much. When on the roadmap there is a delay of about 25 minutes an announcement (on the other only in Italian) warns that ".. the train due to failure of the locomotive is deleted .." and travelers are advised to continue on another train departing on another track.
The delay remains constant for 25 minutes. I get off at Milano Centrale, I rush to the departure of the courier. Ok here she sighed. Various drivers and staff that I confirm the bus leaves in 10 minutes. It was 10:15 up to 10:20. I reason: ok 10:30 + 50 minutes = 11.20: pulled by the hair but doable. Prompt for drivers: one part in 10 min. Were not so I would try a taxi.
I do not know but all the passengers on the bus before 10:40 confirm that no one moved. The impression is that they tried to leave with the car packed with more possible.
Upon the recommendation of those who do not know, to avoid traffic the driver turn onto the highway west, of course imbottigliatissima. Ok
are at Terminal 1 at Malpensa at 11.50, already finished loading. Anger incredible how things went. Especially because I can refer back to any of the three tickets.
So typical example of the damage and insult kimono Trenitalia call center operator to respond to what I feel them is the inter-terminal ic 601, 16.2.2006 had no delays ...
There is no passenger train that could confirm the time of arrival at Milano Centrale? More than anything to not think of a neurological examination, since I missed the flight due to late running of trains for Trenitalia has arrived on time. "

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Cara (in economic sense) Trenitalia,
I write this morning because I had to use one of your trains to go to Padua. To be more precise, I should go to the train station Monselice No. 2952 from the 11:05 Bologna Venice and Padua and subsequently declined to meet there with the woman I love. I am also in a hurry to leave home, I take shortcuts highly curved in the hills not to waste time on the main road blocked by a transport Eccezzziunale really, I found also to have worn his socks down the rush and the fear of losing the train. She says, "but could go to Padua by car rather than take the train and do all the things running, after all are only thirty kilometers," but you are probably not aware that Civitas applies the law in Padua and number plate, looks sometimes the case, my car and registration number odd today is a day when even. She does not know this, otherwise would have had more trains that reach at that time on, even perhaps to avoid clogging the roads too, as we talk more and more pollution. However, thanks to all my tricks, I can get to the station Monselice with ten minutes early. Exhaled a sigh of relief and I settle out of the wind to wait. I look at the departure monitors as I usually do for the sake of habit and read, but could not hide my anger and my dismay, that the 2952 has built up (as fruits) a delay of 50 minutes. The hot date with my girlfriend is definitely missed and I owe it all to you, or great railways. Thanks.

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Carlo Odello we have read indicates that Frenitalia, while continuing the usual disruptions, iPod Nano sells branded with the logos of high speed. Dear Charles, is a sad truth. In fact, we know that is coming in the Emporio company, where thrill-seekers can buy merchandise. In addition to the iPod reported by Charles, in fact, there will also be scale models of famous locomotives of the fleet of Frenitalia. So your children can play in ladder play delays, derailments and accidents and also try them with the emotion of seeing the national transport system to go slow (in fact, high-speed) in disarray.
Ticket, please.